hand and the president, based on our reporting, according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions yesterday, the president said, listen, everybody pause. come back after leadership elections, after that is over. perhaps the thinking was from the white house they would make more progress at that point. we know at least pelosi will be here meet with the president, the vice president and that negotiating team which has been led by mick mulvaney. he's been around on the hill today for the swearing in as well as jared kushner. >> hallie, stick with us. if you get anything, pop in and let us know. i want to bring in my panel. rick sangle is a former under secretary of state. karine jean-pierre, senior adviser to moveon.org and brett stevens. nick is still here as well. so the white house announcing this improommptu press conferen. nancy pelosi has just taken the gavel. day 13 of a government shutdown. what is the goal here? >> presumably, the goal is to resolve -- i wish the goal would