i do think what the democrats can say is look, we've been reasonable. we'll allocate money for border security, not for the wall. that's what we're willing to do. that's a logical compromise to say we'll do some plus-up for additional border security but we're not going to pay for this wall. people know the democrats don't control the entire government. what they can do is say we have a different agenda. we have an agenda to rebuild our infrastructure. we have al agenda to secure voting rights for the american people. we have an agenda that can put people to work and donald trump is focused on a wall. that's a very comfortable fight for democrats to have. to say, look, we were willing to compromise on border security but we're not going to pay for a wall that we don't need and people don't want. >> it needs to be stressed, $5 billion doesn't buy a wall. $5 billion is a figure leaf. it's a way for donald trump to cover a retreat. the question and it's going to be an interesting question what democrats decide. do they want to give the president a face-saving exit or do they want to impose a