eventually it's most likely the house democrats in washington will have the final say? >> well, there will be 34 days without potentially without a state board of elections, thus the january 11th hearing might not happen. it might leave the house to conduct its own investigation next week and not seat anyone. but there's a lot of research going on about other laws that might let the governor appoint the board under like an 1869 statute that deals with situations where there's offices and no provision for their appointment. so people are busy scratching their heads today, but everything was -- from this court order 15 minutes after adjournment of the legislature for the year, took everyone by total surprise. >> i think our viewers are pretty familiar with some of the, some of the battles that have been waged in other states where there have been these so-called power grabs. wisconsin, et cetera. is this, in your view, the