kamala harris as attorney general refused. although now she is very much in favor of testing. we'll find out the truth and i hope truth and justice will prevail, chris. >> wouldn't that be a good thing, especially in this season? it's shocking, right, to see the pictures of him at the time of his arrest and now and how much of his life has gone behind bars. the truth is important. let's just say that again. nick kristof, that's for what you do day after day. happy new year. >> thank you, chris. happy new year. a break ahead but next what will it take to end this government shutdown? a house democrat will join me. you probably heard the president's claim that government workers are telling him to stand firm but do they really prefer a wall over a paycheck? prefer a wall over a paycheck and... adjourned. business loans for eligible card members up to fifty thousand dollars, decided in as little as 60 seconds. the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it.