they are going to hold off having a penalty imposed on this foreign-owned company until they decide whether they're going to take the case. >> you're saying we just don't know? >> that is unfortunately what i'm saying. >> well, jill, i know that you are sometimes a fan of the group wu-tang clan. >> yes. >> but this is a little more notorious b.i.g. he used to say if you don't know now you know. but here it's more if you don't know now you don't know. and we just have to wait. >> i think that's exactly right. and it will be at some point in our history we'll find out who it is. but it's not right now. and we'll have to wait just like we have to wait to see whether mueller is going to have a report in february or not. >> right. well, we'll be waiting on that and your new pins. and as always i like learning a little bit of extra law from you. so jill wine-banks, really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you very much for having me. >> absolutely. up next, tonight's last word.