>> nash, at this point i think i -- i -- my lawyer should be present. >> so travis refused to talk anymore, but he didn't have a choice about providing his dna thanks to that warrant detective gurule brought from colorado. >> just going to swab the inside of your mouth. >> though a stolen car charge seemed hardly enough to warrant extradition, it was in the end just enough, and a few weeks later travis was back in a colorado jail. >> i didn't want him in texas, i wanted him here. i wanted to have access to him. >> where you can continue the conversation? >> absolutely. >> but detective gurule was in for a big surprise. slippery guy, that travis forbes. coming up, the story moves on to another chapter, a different city and another young woman. >> fort collins is a college town and it has a lot of young