>> well, i think in the very short term it's going to hurt in the sense that we had already been expecting secretary mattis to stay on for a couple more months. he said he was going to do it. the white house said he was going to do it. now all of a sudden on top of the original shock that he's departing, he's departing essentially immediately. i don't think shanahan by himself would send shock waves. he at first blush sounds like more of a tech know democrat than an ideologue. i don't think he is an issue. he does seem to be an interim replacement. it compounds the notion that nothing is happening the way it was planned to happen, even the way it was planned to happen by this white house and that's true of the personnel changes at various cabinet agencies and the chief of staff, this announcement of a hasty pullout from syria and from afghanistan and, of course, the shutdown that we were just talking about. it conveys a sense around the world that america is just being