washington is a lot more toxic and partisan than perhaps it was in the past or at least more openly so. do they say to you privately why it is that they won't ever deny either donald trump or fox news? >> they really don't talk about it. they talk about their base. but here is the thing. it really does bother me that even these moderate republicans in the house who i have respect for went along with this ridiculous idea of putting $5.7 billion back into the cr to send over to the senate. they knew it was not going to pass the senate. so that is also just plain to donald trump. and, you know, in the end, i mean, joy, you know i have done so much work on immigration. >> yes. >> this is a red herring to say that somehow we need this $5 billion to secure the border. apprehensions at the border are at an all-time low. the only crisis at the border is the humantorian crisis that donald trump has manufactured. so he's selling a bunch of lies to the american people.