withdrawal without consulting with general mattis, and i think it's raising new questions and reopening the debate, quite frankly on the 25 amendment -- >> oh, come on. >> can i finish. >> i will come to you, jen. >> when somebody is unfit to serve. because, rev, if we see tweets withdrawing troops, how long will it be before we see tweets actually sending troops into harm's way without consulting our defense experts? >> i want to get to syria in a minute. jen, you wanted to respond. i don't think the american people have much sympathy, unfortunately, for pwraobureauc and some paper pushers -- >> are you saying the american people do not care about the federal employees going over the christmas holiday -- >> as tough as that may sound. the bureaucrats in washington,