increasing military expenses, a soaring deficit has them at odds. robert costa joins me from cost cost, congressman costello and brown are back with me. i want to look at the deficit. when he came into office it was $438 billion. i think we have a graphic of shows how it went up according to the federal reserve, they're saying it could be a trillion next year. what's the legacy of paul ryan? >> the cloud over speaker ryan's legacy, before he even bay speaker, he mounted an ideological project to try to contain the deficit, back in 2008. he promised reps if they took power, he would do his best to get the reforms through. he was on the gop ticket in 2012, but he was never able to convince a lot of his party to