want to do them harm. and this is on purpose. this is part of the systemic cruelty of this administration. >> what do you say, congresswoman, to this argument, they're kind of making it on its face, in the wake of the death of a 7-year-old girl, well, this is what you get. this is what you're saying, right? if your daughter has cerebral palsy and needs medical care in the border town of tijuana and you can't get it, you shouldn't have brought her here. we have to stop people from coming. what do you say to that argument? >> well, it's ridiculous, because all the people that i spoke to are fleeing death. and the conditions in the countries, and the majority of the people i spoke to were from honduras. they are still -- they told me over and over again, what they told me during the family separation crisis. we have to leave because we face death at home. so it's not that they're seeking the american dream. they are just seeking to get away from the reign of terror. so this is outrageous. it is, again, against our international human rights treaties. but most of all, chris, it just breaks my heart, seeing a young unaccompanied minor who had been