can we just rustle up $150,000 of hush money that we route through a third-party, then reimburse and cover it all up? is that cool? what's your answer to that person? >> i hope i wouldn't run of the out room screaming, but there's a chance. so, you know, the problem is, trying to do something like that in a expenditures are supposed to be exposed, is clearly a problem. >> yes. >> you have to say to the candidate, you can't do that. >> correct, yes. >> the white house makes the argument, well, there was the case involving senator edwards, and he paid money. the jury didn't convict him. that's a pretty weak read here because, first of all, the prosecutors charged senator edwards. there was a trial. the jury didn't convict him, but they were split on it.