an irs rule, dark money groups going back to a status quo before, before the irs can peer into that donor list. there's another campaign finance story in the news, the got to chart a little different path if they want to survive in 2020. >> you mentioned that campaign finance vote that has to do with an irs rule, dark money groups going back to a status quo before, before the irs can peer into that donor list. there's another campaign finance story in the news, the president's lawyer is going to go to prison for violating the law. how significant is that? >> listen, mueller is starting to show his cards, and they're significant cards. the president was involved in at least two felonies. he's an unindicted co-conspirator. this goes beyond the set of facts that led to the impeachment of bill clinton. i think it's important for congress to see the underlying evidence at some point. i'm more willing to trust mueller than my republican colleagues are. but even i want to see what he has, whether it's from cohen or the national enquirer, that leads him to be so sure about his findings. >> part of the problem with that respectfully is that's all true