potentially there's a criminal case being built here that could involve the president himself. two questions that come off of that. number one, if there's a criminal case related to the campaign finance violation here that involves the president, would that have to be delayed until trump leaves office? say january 21st, 2021 at the earliest there or is there a scenario where that could happen soon your. secondly, i think we see the basic contours of the case that could be built there, has a case like this been tested in any significant way before. i know the example of john edwards and the payments through bunny melon in the 2008 campaign. a jury didn't buy that one. has this theory been tested in meaningful way before? >> it was tested in a meaningful way in the edwards case. the jury acquitted on one charge and hung could not reach a