civic activity, and she wanted russians to have the right to bear arms the way americans do, which given the way russians drink is frankly a horrible idea. i thought this would make an interesting profile subject and i even went shooting with her. i was a terrible shot. she was not. i should have known better. turns out my nose for spies is wanting. >> and she just -- she was just worming her way into american society. she found a receptive audience, julia, correct, at the nra? and that got her an introduction to donny junior, to several republican prominent senators and at least one wisconsin governor. >> yeah, i think what's interesting about her, you know, as we discussed in the previous segment, the russians who are doing this either at the explicit direction of the kremlin, or freelancing trying to get the kremlin's attention and trying to get favors from the kremlin by saying, hey, look at me, i'm doing a great job,