>> people only take that job if, you know, they're going to have the authority to do the job and it's a reasonable chance of success. in the trump white house, neither one of those things are true. the son-in-law and daughter are floating powers behind the scene who cannot be controlled, cannot be brought into any discipline structure and of course, most of all, the president is erratic, uncontrollable and, you know, possibly involved in a criminal conspiracy. so none of that adds up to the kind of opportunity that any reasonable person would want as white house chief of staff. >> the other thing that's beginning to happen. you see it with the votes coming up on yemen. t look at marco rubio on the subject of pardons this weekend. >> i believe it would be a terrible mistake. you know, pardons should be used