trump hasn't spoken to the obamas or the clintons since around this time at his inauguration. jonathan, i saved this for you. what do you make of what we saw and how just was it? >> that's interesting, how just was it. president trump in that crowd was persona nongrat. a all of those people, particularly the democrats sitting there had been targeted for assassination by pipe bomb and when asked have you fall it had obamas or the clintons he said no, i'll pass. he's out there at rallies in the leadup to the midterm elections saying i want to prosecute hillary clinton. the people sitting there -- >> and he was trying to prosecutor. it wasn't rhetoric. >> no, it wasn't rhetoric. he was trying to do it so the idea -- the fact that the obamas reached their hands out to him to shake -- to shake his hand, they are living what they --