minimize their own role, and maybe they will have to share it with the defense and expose the co-op ray or the for cooperation on that, but for small matters, they feel to overcome it, but to blow up the plea deal to say that the person cannot be a witness, they are not just lies, but significant lies. so we will find out what they are hopefully on friday. >> and so, i wanted to ask you about george conway, kristen, and arguably, you don't get into what is going on between the spouses and people with different careers in the town. but in this case, conway is being so aggressive and eric trump going against george conway kellyanne's husband tweet ing about witness tampering because of what the president has been tweeting. how much is the white house concerned about this if at all? >> it is remarkable, andrea, in the terms of the white house being concerned about it, lar