justices just standing at the side of the casket, some of them appointed by this president, and the kind of lack of respect for major institutions. a couple of days like this isn't necessarily going to rekindle that warm and fuzzy feeling. >> no, it won't. it's interesting about the supreme court, to watch them all there, not in their robes, not very often you see them in public together, not in their robes. i believe ruth bader ginsburg was there. i don't think she could stand for the ceremony. >> because the audience here was standing. >> they had to stand there. michael beschloss, you know what's interesting, even as two supreme court justices he named as president, epitomized this straddle that he always straddled between the moderate wing of his party, the new england wing of the party, the southern wing of the party, the moderate liberal republican versus the conservative southern republican, it feels like that's