staffer, natasha bertrand. we already know there's compromising material the russians had on donald trump. the compromising material is that he was lying to the american people, a lie they could reveal that they chose not to. what are the implications of that? >> a lie that they continued to conceal until they had to admit it when "the new york times" reported on it last year. when "the new york times" reported on these e-mails between michael cohen and felix sater. we did not know about this until over a year after trump was naug rated. he was not being as transparent with the american people as he is saying now. now he's saying everyone knew about it, it wasn't that big of a deal. well, the lie itself, as you and the senator were laying out earlier, is extremely damaging. just going back to the sally yates example, sally yates went to the white house and said that the lie to the people were blackmailable. the russians look for any point of entry. this is what intelligence experts i've been speaking to for days have been saying, they