>> one thing, though. paul like his second cousin dave, didn't think that pete was capable of making that bomb. somebody must have helped him. >> i just don't think pete has the technical ability to do it. unless -- he seriously had some help. >> so this type of thing was done by somebody who's pretty intelligent? maybe he got some know how? >> that's kind of what you guys said, and i -- i think that's right. >> who do you think is capable of -- >> remember, paul's ex-in-laws told detective psalm that paul was more likely the guilty party. >> probably 90% paul. >> now the detective turned the tables a little, suggested it was paul who was jealous of roberto. >> i didn't hate robert. >> did you not like him? >> i didn't like the fact that he would cop an attitude with