i will call them the young turks for lack of a better word, there is 20 who have committed to vote against her and as you say they don't have a candidate, but the question is how does this play out? she does really have to get virtually all of her caucus, she can only afford to lose a small number to get through this process. how do you see this finally playing out? >> steve, i think right now she can only afford to lose about 14 votes or something and it is said that as you say they are around 18 or so dissidents of the young and the restless or however you want to term them. pelosi is clearly in this state of diminished power, in a state of diminished leverage is having to make concessions here and there. we have seen this over the last few days, she met with the progressive caucus, clearly if not outright promised them for seats on appropriations committee, energy and commerce and other significant committees, nodded in that direction because, sure enough, outcomes pa mill la via poll saying, okay, i'm going to support her. she has met with the blue dog