established white power structure in thosehe states, against this wave of participation. and so, that's where voter suppression comes from. >> yeah. >> and it's -- that's going to be the battle. that is the battle. >> look, "the walking dead" is shot in georgia, we talked to will packer when we were down there in atlanta. this is actually the tension of atlanta and places like columbus andd atlanta that are trying t be new south, and now you're going to have a governor who has made it very clear, i will decide these people can vote or these people can't. how does he govern a state like that? with the super bowl coming. >> with the super bowl coming. i think we have to think about, there's two narratives and two stories. one, i think kemp represents this, i think a dinosaur age, that while it seems like it's coming back, and there are, what we're seeing is, we're seeing a particular kind of white southern candidate, right, that i think is coming back and we see that in mississippi, we see that with w desantis, we see th