>> you know, lawrence, i'm an engineering student at the university of iowa. i'm planning ongoing into engineering. you know, it's of course not to say there aren't some public policy things i'd like to see accomplished. personally no, no plans yet. >> typical politician. i have no interest in running. typical politician there sitting with your mothers. so -- >> yeah. >> what happened? >> well, you know, i think if i recall correctly, we spoke i think on a thursday or friday night literally dozens of hours after i had given the speech. i had the opportunity over the next several years -- some of your viewers may remember i actually appeared on this show talking about my campaign to end discrimination in the boy scouts of america as co-founder and executive director of scouts for equality. and along the way i started to really get an understanding of the impact that i could have as a potential -- as an advocate