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about this and we've talked about this a lot when i've watched your show. we've encouraged business through trade and tax policy to shut down production in mansfield or dayton, ohio, and move overseas and collect a tax break. and it's a tax policy, it's a trade policy, we haven't looked out for workers. this town, frankly, doesn't really understand the dignity of work. i was talking to a teamster -- a group of about 200 teamsters last night in washington right around the time i saw you coming off your show. and talking about their pensions. and these workers understand the dignity of work. and it's -- you know, we've got to reach them. we've got to speak to them where they are, they've worked all their lives. they believe that washington doesn't even understand the collective bargaining process. you give up money today, you're a worker in philadelphia. you're at the bargaining table with your union. you give up money today to put aside for the future. >> you don't have to make the announcement here, although i would like you to make the announcement when you decide about running for president, because i always thought you fit the uniform of who should run. how do you be tough against

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