person? >> so -- and that's part of what the legal fight about is whether it has to be a senate confirmed person or not. but regardless of that legal fight, the tradition has been that it has always been someone who has previously been confirmed by the senate, that the president has nominated and the senate has fulfilled their constitutional role of providing advice and consent. and there are legal arguments about whether that's required or not. but what i think is so interesting here is that it just so happens that the first time in our country's history that we have an acting attorney general who is not in a senate confirmed seat is the same time that that person is going to oversee prosecution investigation being carried out by the special counsel that involves not only the white house, but the president himself. >> in terms of this legal challenge that is unfolding interestingly with this maryland case, because maryland was suing anyway over an unrelated matter. one of their named defendants was attorney general jeff sessions. that apparently gives maryland, at least in their view standing to sue against this appointment. what do you this of those kinds of court challenges? i imagine that the maryland case isn't the only one that we'll see. >> it will be interesting to see how they play out. the maryland motion today that you were describing in terms of