level of involvement in 2016. the fact was that the outcome was then exactly the same by all the evidence we have, and if there were evidence to the contrary, we would have heard of it by now. what the meddling did create was distrust and animosity within the united states and particularly made it almost impossible for two years for the united states and russia to make progress diplomatically. >> bolton followed that with the administration's newest line on foreign efforts to influence our elections. >> if you want to talk about a really massive influence effort on the american political system, i would suggest you read vice president pence's speech on china's efforts. looking at everything china was doing, a very, very senior u.s. intelligence official said it makes russia look like the junior varsity. >> the vice president's argument which he made earlier this month went something like this. >> as a senior career member of