>> it's tricky because you can't bring a powerpoint to a knife fight. that's not the way to go, but by the same token, the people that they are talking to are already in, right? -- >> they're on the other side, as well. >> yes. 100%. if people do that, that's fine. to your point, if you want to bring in voters who are young then talk about their issues. y you already have these other people. when you talk to kids who have gotten out of college or in college with $68,000 worth of debt they have no hope unless you can help them find a way to move forward and if you're not talking about that, i don't know what you're doing. i do not understand what your strategy is because i already know and wow, you know what? all of that other misogyny. that's over for me now because i feel like you're in a path forward with the coal thing. i'm, like, no. >> when they pan out to the