they're here and we can't bring them home, that it's like for the one thing that the mothers want and i get it and to not be able to do that, it feels -- it's incomplete. >> reporter: does it drive you crazy? >> yes, it does. >> reporter: kathy menzes knows logically, her duties must be dead, how to truly accept it without her body? >> i would go there today and start digging, if they would let me. >> reporter: it matters, doesn't it? >> it does matter. >> reporter: to get her back? >> yeah. >> reporter: you give birth to them, you got to see it through to the end? >> yeah, exactly. >> reporter: in an attempt to make sense of it all, kathy asked detective trapp and her partner to drive her to the place where the killers had picked up quinna. >> you wanted to go to this last spot. why in may i ask why? >> kind of because it was the last known spot that she was at,