so it's a very serious matter and definitely donald trump has promoted the kind of attack that this is, and it seems to be -- >> that's not true! that's not true. first of all, let's say that the president has said the fake news is the enemy of the people, not the press is an enemy of the people. >> oh, come on. >> fake news. and when dana said that his words are being used to promote this kind of behavior around the world, killing journalists, that is absurd. and i take offense to that and every american should. donald trump has never advocated for any journalist to be harmed or murdered. >> wait a minute. >> amy -- >> i would point tod katie's book. >> he referred to a reporter being hit by a train, if i recall. >> excuse me? >> he posted a tweet of a cnn reporter being attacked by a train. >> and a similar thing in a wrestling match. >> no, no. he's posting memes.