have your bromance moment. but the american people see through it and see it for what it is. and if you think the black community is going to wake up and go, he met with kanye. i think i'll go vote for trump. that's not how that works. >> i want you to keep talking, but let me just ask you one follow up. and then i want to hear more of your thoughts. i think this is what stuns me about this white house. how do none of them know what you just said? >> you know, it's -- how do they not know? well, because for them, this is a prop moment. this is not a substantive moment where you'd bring in leaders of, you know, the black community, hispanic community and others. particularly around the folks who are impacted in florida. if you want to connect the dot that way. this is not about that. this is about entertaining the president's passions. and fulfilling his desire to be the front and center moment.