is someone african-americans have championed who say this is someone who they've really, really looked at and said this is a star of rappers. they're going to be able to look at this and say hey, look, there are clearly some african-americans who, like president trump, look what kanye west said about him. for the base, will make them feel better. but for just african-american, looking at some of the text message, people were appalled that kanye west did this. black people are smart enough to know just because kanye west is an african-american man, doesn't mean you're going to follow him and follow what he's saying. you could say that again with herman kean. there were people who said okay, herman kane is a black man. that means people are going to vote for him. and we didn't see that. i don't think this helps the president with african-american voters. >> it's more than just having an unconventional approach or different voice in the white house. because president trump did say things on the campaign trail that some found offensive but he said to some people in the south side of chicago, the system is failing you, democrats are