african-americans and he's really a conscious rapper but this is also a rapper who said george bush doesn't care about black people at the height of when people were criticizing president trump's handling of hurricane katrina because so many african-americans in new orleans felt abandoned by the federal government. now you have him using specific stereotypes that have been overused about african-americans. he talked about the fact that black people have been using welfare. that there aren't fathers in the home. of course we know those things are false. and kanye west was talking about all this stuff and really not making a lot of sense in front of president trump. it was a truly bizarre, bizarre moment. >> okay. but how do you think it's going to impact the president and/or his supporters? >> he said that kanye's really good for him with african-american voters. >> i don't think that kanye west is going to help him at all get any more voters, votes from african-americans. i think the people that already like president trump are going to look and say look, kanye west