recruitment and vetting process for the next chief law enforcement officer of our country. would his background, his name put him organically on any vetting list of top five candidates to be attorney general? >> he's not someone who is really connected in d.c. circles. he didn't come from d.c. big law, as many attorneys general do. he was the u.s. attorney in iowa for a long time. he ran unsuccessfully for the senate out there. people might know him best, frankly, because before he became jeff sessions' chief of staff he was a cnn political commentator, legal commentator. he's a very conservative guy. he looks the part. he's an ex-university of iowa football player, big tough-looking guy. and we understand that's part of what is appealing to him, to trump. but he's not a name that people in connected d.c. legal circles