say yes because they all said we know the ending. so why should we do "all the president's men. >> they said why would we do this when we know the outcome? it's about the men that nobody told them about. >> you said it was a detective story. >> a detective story, but the main thing, i mean, and i think you felt the same way was that the alchemy of the two guys, considering their difference, one of the tough story points is how do you portray nixon, won so twisted on the outside and so straight laced on the outside? >> richard nixon is now the guy who when you see photos of him, even at his prime, you cannot believe he was ever president of the united states. >> he seemed to me to be the kid in the school yard whom all the other kids picked on and i identified with that. >> who was nixon?