this is where we started, and then we started to see, for example, in beach heaven, when we looked back at this one property he has out in brooklyn, that the land underneath it was in a trust for his children established in 1949. so, we start to see all these things where he is, you know, a young man and he's building this real estate, and he's already providing for his children and he has put this land in a trust. and we see a trust for donald trump. so these are sort of the breadcrumbs with the public documents that started to make it really clear. and then companies started to percolate up, names we had never heard. and then we started to put all this together initially through public documents. >> but there are some nonpublic documents that you also obtained. >> a lot. >> at one point, you describe a trump relative who is involved in one of these financial schemes where, as you describe it, they set up basically a fake company to hide money transfers from the father to his children. that relative died earlier this year, and in the piece you say