in the white house. >> that is central to the whole debate. did the nra use shell companies like the one maria butina set up in order to achieve this unprecedented level of political spending? >> do you think that actually happened, that the russians threw these shell companies were funneling money to the nra? >> the fact that clearly over a period of years -- and there were trips to russia and political meetings here and discussions with the highest-ranking officials at the nra, i find it hard to just accept the explanation that this was all just innocent activity back and forth between two countries. >> the nra says it only accepted $2,500 in russian money between 2015 and 2018, and denies any of it went toward a political campaign. butina is now in a detention