and you know what, dr. ford got her story out. and even with ms. mitchell trying to cross-examine her, trying to poke holes in her, trying to show inconsistencies, nothing, zero. they poked no holes that mattered. i mean, i think the biggest one, you know, midway through, was something about, you know, whether she had wanted to fly there or not. totally inconsequential. her story came out clear. she remembered the big picture, the important details. didn't know some minor things. but she explained, and we all know it's common sense that's how human memory works. but when it came time for kavanaugh to testify, and mitchell started doing the same thing -- >> she did. >> she actually was asking him fact-based questions. and he was evasive. >> squirming. >> he couldn't answer them. and they did not want that to happen and that is why she got fired on the spot because to the extent this was at all a fact-finding exercise, which i think, you know, we've said many times on this show and others that it was pretty much a joke to call it that.