he has experience as a freelance journalist, himself. >> this is true. this is true. he's written a lot of op-peds and, you know, he's chronicled much of the debauchery that we now know about that time at georgetown prep. he's written books. he's -- we don't know who this bart o'kavanaugh if that is actually the judge. there's, of course, many questions he could shed light on. as dr. ford has said is the only one who can real attest to whether or not the events transpired as she remembers them. >> joyce, when michael l avenattti brought out his list of questions to ask judge kavanaugh, among the list of questions were the kinds of things that mark judge told the girlfriend who then told "the new yorker" about boys taking turns having sex with a drunk girl. i mean, that's kind of exactly in much more graphic language what michael avenatti says his witness and victim will talk