associated with. it's not in itself a conclusion or proof of anything. i think we should take seriously any specific allegations. i think the issue we're all having here is, again, there is no precedent or set of rules for what facts are most important in deciding supreme court placement. and we all have to decide and all the senators have to decide what we think makes for a good judge -- >> is that going to happen? are all the senators going to come up with an outline how they're going to address these things? >> no, they can't. but every senator has already decided what they think. what is is going to happen with collins or flake or corker? those are the people that i'm sure brett kavanaugh whether be speaking to on thursday. >> more you see donald trump speak and hurt kavanaugh's case, a tnl and the more time that goes by, it's going to be harder for those senators to support this nominee.