and national security journalist, ken dilanian is here. when you read the new york times version, secondhand of these things said by rosenstein, do they sound like things he wanted to do, to run a wiretap and remove the president? >> what i know is that he's a man of impeccable integrity, and really someone who believes in public service and the rule of law. i think the question here is, he's doing his job as deputy attorney general. i don't think there's any question he's been doing that. donald trump can fire him under article 2 of the constitution. he has the power to do that. that will have repercussions that are important. really what's in the room is the fact that vladimir putin wants to destroy our democratic process, he wants to tear people apart, and part of that is