women, or an entire iraqi town. and that level of leadership experience, i don't think you get almost anywhere else in the world than when you're put in a position like that in iraq. or afghanistan. and the other thing that veterans bring is courage. people ask me all the time, seth, why is congress so stupid. how can congress not believe in climate change or whatever. my observation after being there for three years most of my colleagues are pretty smart. a few exceptions. what's lacking in washington isn't intelligence, it's courage. it's just the willingness to do what's right, to stay with what's right, take tough vote even though it might hurt your re-election process. >> donnie everybody is talking about john mccain how courageous he was. here's a man who is a prisoner of war and remained prisoner of war even though he was being beaten and tortured and brutalized. but he made that choice because he wasn't going to go home