himself an ability to say i was there and blacked out. he's not saying it. he said it ain't me, i wasn't there. i think she went through something. women don't make this up. >> here is another piece. tim, i would like you to talk about this part of it. she has come out, publicly now. she initially did not want to. she asked finestein to keep it to herself. it is coming out. detriment to her life, given the death threat. her family is in hiding. her e-mail has been hacked. is the climate different than 1991? we talk about the metoo movement and moment, have things changed? >> some things have changed. the issue of sexual harassment and assault is on the agenda.