types. and one of the things that comes through is if you're money landering it's hard to get away from it so one negative thing, what if these individuals were doing suspicious stuff, aka alleged money laundering all the time? they did it before and after the trump tower meeting but it doesn't link back to the meeting. >> an interesting question. let's note that the attorney for ike kaveladze and the agalarovs say these transactions are above board. he would not get into details about these transactions. >> obviously if you have above board transactions you would withhold the information that might disprove the suspicions. that's normal. >> but to your other point, like manafort these individuals came under scrutiny largely because