the president is loving these statements being put out, but i'm not sure i would be taking any of them to the bank if we're curious about who was involved in this book because a lot of them seem kind of like confirmations. >> eugene, this is not our mutual friend bob's first trip around the bases or first rodeo or whatever expression you have. >> no, it's not. >> how do you think these crises are different as a journalist trying to get his arms around it? >> i've known bob for 30 years. he hired me to be a reporter, and i tell you, when i hear bob woodward say people really need to pay attention and wake up, that gets my attention. >> that focuses the mind. >> that gets my attention. when i hear him being poetic, deeply so, and saying that truth is the life force of democracy, that really gets my attention.