pick up new voters. >> does barack obama get the new voters? >> that's what he is trying to do. does he motivate the folks in the hall today? 800 people at the college, to go out and take action. are they going to register people and knock on doors and do canvassing? if they can find new voters and i say people who don't vote in off years. that's going to be the difference when we look at the turn out. when you look at the primaries in florida and new york and in massachusetts where there was such surprise victories in the democratic primaries, the people dend tend who tended to win got the votes they expected. it's just that these other challengers and all these new people changed the land scape. >> when we talk about -- i just