about can a president be indicted, can a president be called -- trying to push him on roe v. wade, chevron doctrine. i think the voters in middle america like judge kavanaugh. i think they like what they see and that will play out. it's a very high-end nonchaotic -- >> i don't know. i don't think anybody knows who this guy is. his numbers are so low, positive and negative. >> i'm talking about people who watch today. >> i know, i hear you. >> the chevron doctrine crowd. >> kristen welker is still with us. kristen, i've got to check in. i mean i just feel like every 10 minutes something could change out of that press office. is it -- you know, how's reaction now? >> well, chuck, look, i think that they continue to sort of absorb the remarkable events that we've all been witnessing and reacting to in realtime. there's not been any fresh reaction since that statement went out from press secretary sarah sanders, which again very