perspective, i saw him, too. i completely understand what he said, what he heard and the sentiment. the reason i pause is, brett kavanaugh is no fool. right? he's had rehearsal after rehearsal for this. let's say he wanted to snub fred guttenberg. i don't know that he would have done in it that public forum and caused the issues. but it is a very tense room and protesters taken out of the room. this one we could take a beat on. brett kavanaugh would not have made a mistake like this on purpose. >> pete williams is standing by for us. long-time justice correspondent and, pete, i hate questions like this but i'm going to ask it any way. what are the opportunities to lay a glove on this nominee today? >> oh. well, i think a couple of one that is the democrats will really focus on. first of all, in the 'ra in which we live and based on the first 15 minutes of this hour they're going to ask brett