i don't mean to go -- >> no, it isn't -- truth isn't truth. >> the panel is still here. truth isn't truth. they are not weaponizing information. they're weaponizing lies and use ing it to explain away, to justify and protect this man at all costs regardless of the consequence for anything else. >> that's right. it dates back for donald trump to his prepolitical days back when he was a celebrity real estate guy. he would assert his version of the truth. remember, trump tower is 58 stories tall. he said it's listed adds 68. he listed it as 68 because it sounded better. this is not a new phenomenon for donald trump. you're seeing it on this stage, the president himself and others around him tell falsehoods, tell lies, miss report the truth. this ties into their fake news concept where they are trying to undermine negative stories, negative truthful stories about