but he took it to the fbi. >> appreciate it. >> for more on the president's campaign, i am joined by acting solicitor. when you take a step back away from the details of what happened on the russia investigation and the details of the experience theory, you have the president of the united states using his power and leverage to attack, over and over, a civil servant in the career justice department. have you ever seen anything like this? >> not in america in recent years. we had the pendleton act in 1883 which is basically to say we don't want a politicized career civil service and we haven't had one. what the president has done here is a massive mega departure from norms to say that this deep state, it's not just bruce ohr, but he is on a campaign waged against the federal workforce.